Re: Much happier results.

John Snell (geigudr@cs.washington.edu)
Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:07:22 -0700 (PDT)

Per request:

1. An image showing this triangle is on the triangle page.

2. My preliminary slides will be web-available, although they are
*extremely* preliminary as yet. (CYA clause)

3. The six traceroutes involved in this page, just taken now,
are:

AB: Server A was not responding at the time of this mail; however, the
following was one record from the archives, in standardized form:

(times in microseconds)

Version: Tiber v.1.1
Test: ip.traceroute
SourceIP: 192.188.149.14
TargetIP: 205.227.188.16
SourcePlatform: Slave Unix/0.0/Slave Arch
SourceApplication: STR v1.1
MaxHops: 30
NumProbes: 3
ProbeWait: 3000
TraceWait: 240000
StartTime: 3105376857
EndTime: 3105376892
TimeServerIP: 128.100.96.9
PacketSize: 40
RoutedIP: 1@170.1.33.1:10000,0;10000,0;20000,0
RoutedIP: 2@205.164.112.49:10000,0;10000,0;10000,0
RoutedIP: 3@198.32.136.13:30000,0;30000,0;40000,0
RoutedIP: 4@207.112.247.150:80000,0;100000,0;80000,0
RoutedIP: 5@207.112.240.134:90000,0;80000,0;70000,0
RoutedIP: 6@*:0,*
RoutedIP: 6@4.0.2.254:70000,0;70000,0
RoutedIP: 7@4.0.1.129:100000,0;90000,0;150000,0
RoutedIP: 8@4.0.1.189:100000,0;100000,0;110000,0
RoutedIP: 9@*:0,*
RoutedIP: 9@4.0.1.133:130000,0;140000,0
RoutedIP: 10@4.0.16.6:120000,0;150000,0;250000,0
RoutedIP: 11@4.0.68.78:140000,0;130000,0;130000,0
RoutedIP: 12@*:0,*
RoutedIP: 12@205.227.188.16:140000,0;130000,0

BA:

traceroute to 192.188.149.14 (192.188.149.14), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
1 netgwb (205.227.188.1) 6 ms 5 ms 4 ms
2 oakland-cr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.68.77) 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms
3 oakland-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.16.1) 13 ms 10 ms 12 ms
4 denver-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.134) 42 ms 40 ms 39 ms
5 denver-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.190) 41 ms 40 ms 39 ms
6 chicago1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.130) 62 ms 60 ms 60 ms
7 chicago1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.2.253) 61 ms 61 ms 60 ms
8 core0-h10-0.chi2.nap.net (207.112.240.133) 63 ms 65 ms 60 ms
9 core0-a0-3.sjc.nap.net (207.112.247.149) 122 ms 122 ms 119 ms
10 sjc-t1-2.brainstorm.net (207.112.242.10) 138 ms 164 ms 187 ms
11 r0-rtr1.brainstorm.net (205.164.112.62) 134 ms 130 ms 162 ms
12 techmart.com (192.188.149.14) 135 ms 145 ms 269 ms

AX: Again, A unreachable. Archived:

Version: Tiber v.1.1
Test: ip.traceroute
SourceIP: 192.188.149.14
TargetIP: 205.158.5.58
SourcePlatform: Slave Unix/0.0/Slave Arch
SourceApplication: STR v1.1
MaxHops: 30
NumProbes: 3
ProbeWait: 3000
TraceWait: 300000
StartTime: 3107105339
EndTime: 3107105346
TimeServerIP: 192.5.41.209
PacketSize: 40
RoutedIP: 1@170.1.33.1:10000,0;10000,0;10000,0
RoutedIP: 2@205.164.112.49:10000,0
RoutedIP: 2@205.164.112.30:10000,0
RoutedIP: 2@205.164.112.49:10000,0
RoutedIP: 3@198.32.136.38:10000,0;10000,0;10000,0
RoutedIP: 4@205.158.0.6:10000,0;10000,0;20000,0
RoutedIP: 5@207.88.3.206:10000,0;10000,0;20000,0
RoutedIP: 6@*:0,*
RoutedIP: 6@205.158.128.66:20000,0;10000,0

XA:

traceroute to 192.188.149.14 (192.188.149.14), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
1 web-ipsilon-1.web.internex.net (205.158.128.65) 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms
2 us-hq-core2-a1-0d4.rtr.concentric.net (207.88.3.205) 10 ms 1 ms 1
ms
3 us-hq-core2-a1-0d4.rtr.concentric.net (207.88.3.205) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
4 maewest.r1.brainstorm.net (198.32.136.74) 7 ms r0-rtr1.brainstorm.net
(205.164.112.62) 9 ms 6 ms
5 techmart.com (192.188.149.14) 18 ms 17 ms 13 ms

BX:

traceroute to 205.158.5.58 (205.158.5.58), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 netgwb (205.227.188.1) 36 ms 37 ms 40 ms
2 oakland-cr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.68.77) 78 ms 10 ms 10 ms
3 oakland-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.16.17) 11 ms 11 ms 54 ms
4 sanjose1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.74) 52 ms 117 ms 56 ms
5 mae-west.px.concentric.net (198.32.136.38) 70 ms 69 ms 69 ms
6 us-hq-core2-f0-0.rtr.concentric.net (205.158.0.6) 14 ms 16 ms 14 ms
7 webfarm-ipsilon-1.internex.net (207.88.3.206) 21 ms 14 ms 12 ms
8 web01.web.internex.net (205.158.128.66) 14 ms * 28 ms

XB:

traceroute to www.internetweather.com (205.227.188.102), 30 hops max, 40
byte packets
1 web-ipsilon-1.web.internex.net (205.158.128.65) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
2 us-hq-core2-a1-0d4.rtr.concentric.net (207.88.3.205) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
3 198.32.184.19 (198.32.184.19) 4 ms 5 ms 3 ms
4 sanjose1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.81) 4 ms 6 ms 4 ms
5 oakland-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.73) 5 ms 5 ms 6 ms
6 4.0.16.22 (4.0.16.22) 11 ms 60 ms 162 ms
7 clearink.bbnplanet.net (4.0.68.78) 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms
8 bolt.clearink.com (205.227.188.16) 12 ms * 12 ms

On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, David Becker wrote:

> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:07:04 -0700
> From: David Becker <becker@wakko.cs.washington.edu>
> To: syn@cs.washington.edu
> Subject: Re: Much happier results.
>
>
> " Anecdotally, one of the 70% better paths comes from this data element:
>
> I was curious and looked up the addresses for this particular path.
> These packets appear to be zipping around the Bay Area.
>
> A= trex (TREX-DOM)
> PO Drawer O
> Los Altos, CA 94023-4015
>
> B= Clear Ink (CLEARINK-DOM)
> 2540 Camino Diablo, Suite 203
> Walnut Creek, CA 94596
>
> X= Missing Link (MISSING-DOM)
> P.O. Box 2361
> Santa Clara, CA 95055-2361
>
>
>
> " ab 192.188.149.14:205.227.188.16 average latency ms 137.28
> " num latency samples 25
> "
> " aX 192.188.149.14:205.158.5.58 average latency ms 16.45054945
> " num latency samples 91
> " bX 205.227.188.16:205.158.5.58 average latency ms 12.64285714
> " num latency samples 14
> " %better 2hop vs 1:(ab - (aX + bX))/ ab 0.788072504
> "
> " (pasted from the table)
> "
> " _____________________________________________________________________________
> " "The human mind is a 400,000-year-old legacy application...and you expected
> " to find structured programming?" -- Randall Davis, 1996 AAAI Pres. Address
> "
> "
>

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"The human mind is a 400,000-year-old legacy application...and you expected
to find structured programming?" -- Randall Davis, 1996 AAAI Pres. Address