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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:19:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU>
To: sm@bossette.engr.sgi.com
Cc: minshall@siara.com, tcp-impl@grc.nasa.gov, touch@ISI.EDU
Subject: Re: Nagle -- again
> From: sm@bossette.engr.sgi.com (Sam Manthorpe)
> Subject: Re: Nagle -- again
> To: touch@ISI.EDU (Joe Touch)
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:57:58 -0700 (PDT)
> Cc: tcp-impl@grc.nasa.gov, minshall@siara.com
>
> Joe Touch wrote:
> >
> > One observation - the paper indicates that there _must_ be at least
> > one ACK every two packets. This is not strictly required, at least
> > last time I checked.
> >
>
> I've been meaning to bring that up for a while. The `ack every other
> segment' algorithm recommended in RFC-1122 is bad news for high bandwidth,
> low packet size media. In particular I'm thinking of gigabit Ethernet
> without jumbograms. When we get an ack for every 2 packets, i.e. one
> ack for every ~2920 bytes of application data, then if we want to obtain a
> TCP goodput of, say, 600 Mbits/sec on a single connection, then our
> sending machine will be receiving approx. 26000 ACKs per second which
> places a substuntial load on the sending hosts's stack (interrupt
> processing, IP packet processing, TCP processing).
This is indeed problem. However, it appears that a significant part
of the issue is the lack of a reasonable sized MTU, i.e., sticking
with non jumbograms. Relying on ACK reduction alone won't fix that.
The key issue is whether ACK clocking is important. It is implicit,
but only if the ACK frequency is high enough. If ACKs are less
frequent, the source becomes more bursty (allowed to send K packets
when an ACK arrives).
> (a) the SHOULD in RFC-1122 should remain a SHOULD and not become
> a MUST, IMO
It seems useful to require _either_ a minimum acceptable ACK frequency
or a separate clocking mechanism that spaces transmission. This could
be something negotiated on a per-pair basis.
> (b) I'm sure there is a clever algorithm to be found that decides
> when the optimal time to send an ACK is; anybody got any ideas?
Clever, _and_ runs as needed for a gigabit, if you please :-)
Joe